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At the start of the Black Lives Matter protests, Katy Howell, the CEO of social media agency Immediate Future, posted a moving video on LinkedIn about her own experience of systemic racism in the UK. She joins Maja Pawinska Sims on the PRovoke Media podcast to talk about how agencies in the creatives industries can move from pledges to solid action on supporting Black and ethnic minority employees.

The PRovoke Media Podcast is produced by Markettiers.

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